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Human Rights not always right

Posted by SMM on 16:10
Kudos to the Delhi police for the recent encounter where they killed two terrorists. My condolences to the family of the brave officer who died fighting terrorists. I appreciate the prompt and much needed action in weeding out some bit of terrorism. I salute the officers who got this information.As a citizen, I do not condemn the action one bit. An eye for an eye my friend, is what is the norm of the day. Gandhiji's dictum of showing the other cheek would not really work today. We would be bombed out of oblivion by all the terrorists.

However I am appalled by the reaction of various alleged activists of human rights activists who say that that the police encounter has violated the rights of those 'men'. Men? What men? Oh you mean those men who planted bombs in various parts of Delhi on 13th September to go off in tandem killing many and ruining many more or those men who master-minded the various blasts in Jaipur, Hyderabad, Ahmedabad, Mumbai etc. You mean those men have any rights? 
You mean that instead of taking swift action, the police should have taken them into custody, filed a complaint, be given all the rights of an Indian citizen, and then be given the  opportunity to escape when their many friends  will again kidnap some minister's daughter and demand the release of these men?

You mean that the police should now instead of actively tackling terrorism and questioning the men to get more information, should instead sit down and write  lengthy  reports for the NHRC and stand  trial for why they shot dead a man who killed so many innocent Indians  for no rhyme or reason?Go to hell Mr. Activist and may you be bombed from there by the 'men' who reside there. Men like these terrorists deserve no sympathy. They should all be rounded up and shot to oblivion. Set an example so that no other will again try these attention gaining tactics by blowing up thousand of inncent people again. They have been shot to death. They should be made an example for the rest of the terrorists hiding in their little cubby holes in other parts of the country. They have no rights. The only right they have is that they have none. Human Rights are for human beings, not for heartless soulless bastards who blow up innocent people in the name of Allah. They claim oppression? What oppression are they talking about?  Dude you want to be something in thsi world. Stop learning how to make bombs and counting your success in terms of the number of people who died because of your bombs  - instead learn how to build bridges literally and metaphorically.  If you still think that you are oppressed, let's see why - Oh because your a Muslim and a minority. Umm what about all those reservations for minorities? And have you once thought why Muslims have a bad name today. Because of you. One rotten apple can spoil an entire basket of aples. A handful of misguided Allah's followers have given a bad name to the whole community. 
So Mr. Terrorist, I am very happy that some of your ilk died a violent death.
You guys deserved that.
You guys deserve no sympathy.
You guys are not human,
You guys don't even know what is it that your fighting for.
You guys are cowards who hide behind your anonymity and do not have the guts to come out and state what it is exactly that your fighting for.
You guys are heartless.  
You guys should all be publicly lynched.
You guys have given the enitre Muslim community a bad name. Today if I meet a Muslim, I am wary. And I don't blame myself for that. I blame you. One rotten apple  spoils the entire basket.




And Mr. Human Rights Activist, if you think Mr. Terrorist deserves some sympathy, maybe you should go meet the family of the police officers who have died, or that kid who lost her father, or the wife who will never meet her husband again, or the artist who lost his hand, or the father who is still a missing name. Maybe you should go meet all those people who had the job of cleaning up the blast sites and had to pick up a stray leg here, an arm there. Maybe you should go meet the family who couldn't even cremate their  son because not a single body part was recovered for the cremation. Maybe you should go meet all those poor people who cannot be given their compensation money since they do not have a bank account. Maybe you should go meet the family which lost its sole breadwinner and the huge job of supporting his family has fallen on a 14 year old. And then come and tell me if you still think Mr. Terrorist deserves any rights at all?


20 Comments


Very well said woman!!


you know my views on the topic pretty clearly.
I will refrain from putting them down here, due to the extreme right political nature of the same.

But yeah - i'm in agreement with you and your views on the handling of this situation


Gosh! I cannot believe that people are demanding rights for terrorists now!


Arjun: Yup we have discussed this :)


Sol, isin't that crazy. These human rights people just drag things way too far. Now they want terrorists also to be at par with the rest of us citizens. Helooo, maybe those Human Rights people didn't notice, but most of us don't go around planting bombs and killing people. The moment one does that, he stops being a human and loses all his rights.


@ SMM,

I think these people are being more dramatic than rational. Seems to me like they love the limelight and don't bother about what they need to say to stay in it.


I think the world is going crazy. Rights for who????

Its like how this man broke into a house in Sydney and when the owner bashed him up for self-defence, the intruder filed a lawsuit and won too!


Keshi.


sigh! i don't even know what to say. really! this will continue till god only knows when. and each time we'll be taken by surprise and someday it'll be someone we know or one of us.


I agree with you on trashing terrorist till kingdom come.But here's my point.. what if a few innocents are caught in the this debacle. Case in point Guantanamo Bay detention camp. Are our intelligence sources so right on, that the terrorists are the only ones hurt? if they were these blasts wouldnt even be happening.. blow the guys up when they even think of hurting the innocents


Hi,
My first time here :) I m not from India but I ve read many blogs talking about the recent events in India.
As for the terrorists they should certainly not have any rights.
It was really written btw ( i won t say i enjoyed it since it s not a funny story) but i ll be back soon.
C.


Keshi, guess the HR people are only interested in themselves. They only want publicity.

If someone breaks into my house, I am not going to stop and ascertain whether he is a petty thief, a dacoit, rapist or a murderer. I am going to defend my family and myself. In focusing on rights of such people, these people seem to have forgotten that we, the middle class tax paying section of society also have rights - such as self defence


Utopia, that's what I fear too. One day you may not say goodbye, and then never see the person again. It's happened once.


Anu, what kind of an innocent would have a full armoury stashed at home - guns, AK 47, bullets grenades etc. I know that I don't.

And if we always have that fear that one innocent person may get killed, point is do we ant to save one innocent person or take a risk and maybe end up saving thousands of people who may die because we let one "innocent" person go.

Anu, I am not advocating killing of every person we suspect, but if we have adequate evidence to show that someone maybe a terrorist, then do you want to take a risk and put him in jail and give him a fair trial and again have some minister's daughter allegedly kidnapped so that he can be let off, or a plane full of people be blown up to have him set free.


Hey Cess, welcome to my blog :)

I saw the joint post you did with Keshi. That was a pretty interesting view point too.

Cess, that's what I feel too. A petty thief/ dacoit maybe still have some rights, but do people who make bombs and plant them for a living and in the name of religion, what rights do they have? And, the worst thing is that noone even knows what they are fighting for.

Hope to see ya around more often Cess :)


I so agree SMM!

Keshi.


I agree.. if its proven that he is a terrorist then shoot him then and there before he causes a harm to ant too, but I am worried about the corrupt creatures who are part of our politcalforces.Ive have witnessed these corrupt politicans in play and thats worries me.


Beautifully and passionately written.

I understand the place of pain from which they come, though I don't entirely agree with you. A very wise man once said to me, "You become the thing you hate." I think that's one of the most awful parts about acts of extreme violence - beyond the death and the immediate suffering - is that they suck us into the very evil which we so abhor.

Personally, I think violence begets violence. I don't think killing discourages killing. Instead, I think it fuels the flames. Terrorists think of themselves as noble martyrs. Killing them feeds rather than deters such beliefs.

It seems to me that no matter how tempting and how temporarily it feels like you have gotten your own back, holding true to the law and the values of society is the best way to go. Otherwise terrorism wins. More damage was done in my country in response to 9/11 than was done by the maniacs who flew into those buildings. In fear and anger we allowed our government to trash the very values they were allegedly defending. The terrorist just had to sit back and watch us destroy ourselves. The bombs are only the infection planted. The worst sickness came after in the world wide deaths justified in the name of defending ourselves against terrorism, in the acts of torture justified in the name of defending ourselves against terrorism and on and on and on.

My older sister was stabbed to death 20 years ago on October 2nd (Gandi's birthday). For me - killing her killer would not heal anything. It wouldn't bring her back. It would make me part of a kind of violence I know she would have hated.

I don't want to let hate and anger consume me. I think the bad guys win when that happens. I don't know what the answer is to terrorism but I don't think joining in the killing is it. In the end - creepy and vile as they are - terrorists ARE human. Dealing with the injustices in all our societies, listening to one another seems a better response, though a much slower and less certain one - than killing.

That said - I'm understand your rage and you have expressed yourself with beautiful eloquence and passion.

I wish with my whole heart that this kind of insanity could be put to rest and that nobody anywhere ever had to feel such pain again.


Anu, what I understand is that your saying that should be a general course of action, the police should not be given the license to go around shooting anyone in the name of encounters. I agree with that completely. But what I'm saying is that, in this particular incident in Delhi, it was a good thing they did kill a few of those bastards. And they were obviously not innocent, else how would they have had a full arsenal at home?

Anu, just to clarify, I am only talking about this one particular incident in this post - I am most certainly not propagating that police go around shooting dead anyone they suspect of being a terrorist.


Raven, that was such a well thought out comment and I can only reply to it through a post since I have so much to say about this.

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